and all these polls are just razor tight as the men do among independent voters, i mean, it's razor thin. so your point is well taken that these two guys need to be focused on rallying their base since the independents right now seem evenly split. >> absolutely right. you've got to get your base on track to make sure today show up on election day. and remember, for mitt romney he's got to remember those reagan democrats. what effects them? jobs, health care, all the other issues that we talk about each and every day. that's how you reach out to those reagan democrats and bring 'em onboard. you're going to win an length not because -- an election not because the independents, but the reagan democrats broke for you. you've got to find a message for them while energizing your base. megyn: that is just fascinating. so there may literally -- not attributable to bias by the pollsters -- there may literally be a fine-point advantage -- nine-point advantage for the democratic party in a state like ohio, there may be more democrats than republicans, but that doesn't mean you can't win them. your